8-year-old children are being trained to do one of the most sexually culturized dances on Earth, “Pole Dancing”.
Pole dancing has been synonymous with strip joints and lap-dancing clubs. It has stopped being solely the preserve of red-light districts and moved into the mainstream. It is now referred to as “pole fitness”.
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The dances themselves are hardly the problem, consider the stamina and upper body strength needed for the routines… the issue I have is in the spectators.
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Sport for strength I can understand and even trying to take back something that may have been perverted by strip bars is understandable but where they lose me is in the muck. Take for instance that the pole dance game kits come with fake money.
There is going to be a very strange transition period where children will have to somehow navigate the spectator response and association with sex at an age where they are more susceptible to programming rather than reason.
I don’t see this ending well for some of them.
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I hadn’t thought about it but I see your point with that fake money.
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The issue you have is with the spectators? Okay, they’re pretty much doing this FOR spectators. It’s NOT a private thing. There are clubs that compete for scores. They are judged on ability, poise and technique. Gymnastics does the same thing. So, what would you have them do? I assume you say that because your idea of men watching this is perverted. So, should we kick all of the men out of anything having to do with girls period? Should all of the coaches be women? And what about TV or the Internet? There is such a thing as a woman predator.
The difference between this and gymnastics is that pole dancing has long been known as a form of sexual entertainment. I would not want the men attracted to that attracted to this but there’s no way you’re going to prevent it. It’s for that reason I would be against this.
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I hear you but explain why they sometimes give them play money? The pole dance kids game comes with play money?
Rationalize that please O.o
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As I said, I’m against the entire thing. If someone actually produced or is producing kits like that it’s disgusting. Anyone that would purchase such a thing for a child has a screw loose.
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This is such a redeeming site for a Christian to operate. Or is he a Christian at all?
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Why is opposing children pole dancing anti-christian Dave Norris?
This will be the first time someone has defended pole dancing for children because of Christianity, what is your denomination Dave Norris?
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I said you had a redeeming site. To me redeeming means good. What does it mean to you?
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To me it means “saving from sin”, but what confused me was your question of faith at the end in conjunction wit it.
It seemed to indicate there being something wrong with opposing pole dancing for children. That may have forced the wrong understanding of what you were trying to say, I apologize if that was the case.
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Denominations are man-made theology you should know that. I belong to no denomination. What about you?
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I put my faith in Christ, I find religion and denominations to be a bit deceiving.
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A bit deceiving? I call them greatly deceiving and so does Jesus. In vain they worship me teaching as doctrines the Commandments of men. Do you agree?
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I would agree they are deceiving anything more could just be semantics but I may agree that some religions could be classified as greatly deceiving due to the way they fleece the flock for money and property.
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If you want them to stop asking you for money on the you 100 fold return, ask them to send you 1 million dollars and then the Lord will bless them a hundred fold and they won’t have to ask for money again. I did that once but to this day I never received a check. I wonder why? Not really
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Pole dance is for all ages and anyone who see’s children on a pole as sexual, is a little perverted. I’m a pole dancer, and our class is open for children. One of the girls is 8 and she shows so much strength, confidence and resilience – I wish I had an ounce of that as a child.
People forget that there is more than one form of pole dance, there is the classic ‘stripper’ style but there are plenty more that can give ballerina’s a run for their money.
I agree with the child’s pole above, it’s a tad tasteless, but most pole dancer’s would think that was strange too.
Go to a class and watch the men and women be graceful, strong and powerful – it will honestly open your mind 🙂
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You stated “Pole dance is for all ages and anyone who see’s children on a pole as sexual, is a little perverted. I’m a pole dancer, and our class is open for children. “
My response — There are some challenges that have not been addressed with children pole dancing that I think are valid and worth contemplation.
1) If pole dancing for children is relegated to just exercise then what is the purpose of the toy money?
2) Pole dancing within society has traditionally been for the purpose of making money through sexual enticement. Where men have become accustomed to associating this with sex. Why would we charge children with making the transition of this concept?
Why not end the practice as a sexual money maker and then campaign it back into society as an exercise and then introduce it to the children once completly converted.
We did a very similar thing with soccer from a blood sport to what we have today.
Just a thought
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1) I said in my comment that the pole aimed at children with the money and garter is tasteless and most polers/aerialists would agree. That pole wasn’t made by a proper pole dance company so isn’t anything to do with the pole community.
2) exotic pole and fitness pole is two different sides of the coin. Children’s pole dance classes aren’t taught this side at all, any exotic classes are age 18 and over. If you look at pole fitness and gymnastics for children it’s so similar, just one has a horizontal bar and the other has a vertical one.
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Let me ask you a question. How do you feel about this: https://realitydecoded.blog/2018/02/17/children-are-literally-being-stressed-out-brainwashed-and-dressed-like-hookers-by-parents-for-live-pageants/
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I don’t agree with pageants. I’m not sure what that has to do with pole dancing?
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I was just curious. We live in a complicated world with lots of positions and opinions.
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Pageants and pole dance cannot even be used in the same sentence, they are completely different. One whores out their children and the other lets children have fun, get fit and gives children confidence.
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I don’t mean to bud in rudely..but… 🙂
There is a simple answer to this. America (by America I do not mean the USA, I mean the western world) makes everything sexual and hence the conclusion of ‘8 year olds pole dancing = stripping’ it is why movies with nudity in them (even just someone’s bum) can be rated R and a movie with someone’s head blown off may be rated 14 + at best because..you know violence is normal here in America, but don’t strut around in your birthday suit because someone will make you a sexual target even if you don’t ask to be. If people want to pee in the middle of the street that is their business, I don’t see it as an sexual act just a rather absorb act. I never found someone peeing to be ‘hpt’ but to each their own. People make excuses for all of these things oh but what if kids see it and what if this and that…..if we didn’t censor sex so much and we as a socierty weren’t so afraid of it and could talk about it openly with our children there wouldn’t be babies having babies and 13 year old ‘sluts’ running around. At most safe sex would truly be promoted and how to truly respect your body. I didn’t lose my virginity until I was almost 18 which is kinda rare in our society, and yes by choice. My parents were very open about any question I asked them no matter what it related to be it drugs, sex whatever it was because they trusted me and I trusted their advice.
This is more of a society rant but the point being is this is why pole dancing for 8 year olds is getting negative feed back and being seen as sexual. The minute we mention nudity or anything related as such like ‘pole dancing’ our brain automatically connects it to sexual. Rather this is related to the pole community or not…whoever finds a 8 year old pole dancing to be sexy or sexual is perverted and probably a pedophile.
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Oh and changing the subject to pageant has nothing to do with the original topic. 😛 All it proves to me is we are doomed as a society. These people should not be allowed to have children. Dressing up as a hooker is a bit yes extreme and crosses boundaries.
If the 8 year olds were actually stripping and being told about stripping, the business of it or they can make money from it one day I would question it, but until then it is just another form of exercise.
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You Stated — “If the 8 year olds were actually stripping and being told about stripping, the business of it or they can make money from it one day I would question it”
My Response — The kid stripping poles come with toy money. I think they are learning what it’s used for.
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Yes, but this stripping pole specifically has nothing to do with the pole dancing community. This one is yes questionable. I think the entire pole dancing community is getting backlash because of our society when actual pole dancing alone has nothing to do with stripping.
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I lost my virginity to a boyfriend of two years….I made him wait 6 months…and he was older than me by like 7 years. My parents questioned it of course, my brother wanted to beat him up at first. 😛 We broke up because a change in life plans (I went to college) not because he was a bad guy. I loved him, I still do…I just thought I was too young you know to settle down and not live my life to the fullest. He was my first love though. So don’t judge a book by it’s cover. People judged us constantly because of the age difference like he was taking advantage of my young age or something.
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You Asked — “why pole dancing for 8 year olds is getting negative feed back and being seen as sexual.”
My Response — Most likely because of the toy money that comes with it and the old men watching like wolves at the dinner table.
Just saying
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Sexual predators can also be found at playgrounds, gymnasiums and swimming pools. Should participation in those activities be discouraged as well?
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Interesting post , keep up the good work. Have a great day.
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If this is presented as exercise, a-kin to gymnastics, that is a good thing. If it is to train them to understand that they can eventually make money doing that, Houston, we have a problem. And, I agree with Carly, above, Pageants are awful. I know. I’ve been in one. Objectification, straight up.
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Ha, welcome to the reality that has been in existence since time began.
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It’s sad. Pole dancing is a great core workout, it strengthens, tones, and burns fat, but I agree with what others are saying. If it’s being used as a tool to objectify these young girls and show them that a “career” can be made by showing off their bodies, it is a problem. It should be used as a tool for fitness and art, not objectifying their bodies and teaching them that sex sells. I’m also disappointed in the outfits I see so many girls wearing as well. It’s such a shame!! Kids need to just be kids for as long as they can.
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Anyone who argues pole dancing is fun fitness for children needs their head examined. Sweet mercy, has the world gone mad? Strippers pole dance, end of story.
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Then their parents wonder why they grow up to become precocious teenagers!
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LOL. God forbid anyone enjoy their lives in these dark times.
“Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”
–H. L. Mencken
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You Stated — “LOL. God forbid anyone enjoy their lives in these dark times.”
My Response — Is that also true for people who go to church?
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Of course!
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Lander! You just liked a comment I made over a year ago?
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It was a good comment in need of a like. 😀
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LOL!
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