I found the following verses very interesting in The Book Of 1 Timothy
1 Timothy 1
20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
1 Timothy 2
2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
1 Timothy 3
6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.
1 Timothy 4
4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.
1 Timothy 5
Give the people these instructions, so that no one may be open to blame. 8 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
9 No widow may be put on the list of widows unless she is over sixty, has been faithful to her husband, 10 and is well known for her good deeds, such as bringing up children, showing hospitality, washing the feet of the Lord’s people, helping those in trouble and devoting herself to all kinds of good deeds.
16 If any woman who is a believer has widows in her care, she should continue to help them and not let the church be burdened with them, so that the church can help those widows who are really in need.
23 Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
1 Timothy 6
9 Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.
Do you consider the Pastorals to be genuine Pauline texts or forgeries?
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You Asked — “Do you consider the Pastorals to be genuine Pauline texts or forgeries?”
My Response — I understand that theist and atheist often argue the validity of religious documents but from my perspective it is nonsensical.
Either god is real, or god is not?
If you say god is real, then prove it.
If you say god is not real, then prove it.
If god is real, then anything is possible.
If god is not real, then it is all fake.
There is only this one question and everything else is a waste of time.
Some will argue, nonsensically, ad nauseum, for endless thousands of years, going into endless proofs of validity, at unnecessarily granular levels, that never answer the question.
But:
Those who argue over this question at granular levels benefit in one noticeably clear way, they boost ego. Since both sides know they cannot solve the question, they can then reliably assure victory in any argument with anyone at any time. They simply bolster self-esteem or self-importance. They have no goal in understanding the human condition. They are narcissists.
Even now, while you read this reply, your only thought is on the question. You have no ability to think past this train of thought, so your only option is to fell satisfied that you are justified in your position. You will claim some type of victory as an atheist or theist (whichever you are) and ultimately the argument will be repeated by you at a later date.
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