Some religious groups are forcing faith healing in states such as Idaho, which offers protection from prosecution for religious rights.
Nearly 200 victims in Idaho, (infants, children and teens), have died while being denied medical treatment by parents demanding faith healing only. Others are suffering from long-term complications due to lack of treatment.
Mariah Walton’s Story and why she wants her parents in jail.
Babies are dying from fevers that could be treated easily at hospitals. Even broken bones are ignored in favor of faith healing.
The testimonies of abuse have not convinced Idaho’s legislators to change the laws to protect the children.
Reality Decoded 
Some people are really hostile to faith healing, seeming to forget that medical errors are still the 3rd leading cause of death in the US, killing some 240,000 people a year.
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The problem isn’t faith healing, it’s denial of medical treatment in favor of only faith healing.
As a Christian I believe in healing from God but I also believe it’s evil to deny a child medical care.
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Right, but there are also parents wracked by guilt because they exposed their child to medical care. 240,00 people die every year in this country from medical care. It seems to me as if we should address that first.
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Agreed, bad medical care is also an issue. I would say both topics are worthy of examination.
I would also say one wrong does not negate the other both are on a long list of things that need more exposure.
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@ IB22
This is a dreadful stat, of course. As you say, it should be addressed ( are you sure it isn’t).
But this in no way exonerates faith healing which has never ever been shown/verified to have been effective in any circumstances.
For what it’s worth, while the figures you relay are bad can you imagine what the rate of infant mortality alone would be without ANY medical intervention?
Simply try to imagine the disaster if blanket vaccinations were withdrawn or suddenly inaccessible?
Consider all the children that died or suffered with polio?
Consider all the women that died in childbirth.
Consider all those who died because of toothache?
Bring it right up to date and imagine what would happen if there were no anti-retrovirals?
As it is,the Catholic Church through its stance on contraception is regarded as directly responsible for the deaths of untold numbers in Africa and other places around the globe
However, instead of trying to tacitly support faith healing perhaps it would be better if you simply supported your case by supplying verified evidence of just a single individual healed /cured/ brought back to health as a direct result of faith healing or prayer?
In all seriousness, I am most interested to read any evidence you must surely be aware of, yes?
Ark.
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The government also got in on the lies of healing. It seems to be a weak point in humanity that is easily exploited.
https://realitydecoded.blog/2018/02/20/399-black-men-tortured-by-7-us-surgeon-generals-for-40-years-without-rest-within-the-us-and-backed-by-the-cdc/
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You stated — “I am aware of Placebo.
In context this is not faith healing.”
My response — Then you are not fully up to speed on the topic. You should look into the two examples I provided and then take your own advice.
You stated to me earlier — “Google is your friend.”
If it was enough for me then it should be enough for you.
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Faith healing in the religious context, which is what we are discussing, is bogus.
To suggest otherwise requires you to support such a claim with verified evidence. To date you have not done so.
Until then, I consider you are being disingenuous.
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You have a right to your opinion.
It doesn’t remove the fact that placebos work and we don’t know why they work. Some believe it’s because of God, others believe it’s mind over matter, some believe spirits, ect.
I will still provide the same answer, “We don’t know why”
You personal evaluation of me and my beliefs have no bearing on that truth. In our discussion I only focus on the content not you or myself.
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I’m not interested in what you think of me, it doesn’t further the conversation.
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Some would argue that they did not have enough faith…
Even as anti-doctor as I am, I still have a family practitioner (for those rare immediate type needs)
religion or science?
science or religion?
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Science for solutions and religion for when science fails.
Just a thought
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Extremes on both
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Agreed
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I’m non-religious but, not an atheist. Percentage-wise, statistically-speaking, the medical establishment has killed more people than religious parents. Both are culpable. Unfortunately, it is easier to punish parents than it is to go after high profile doctors or the leviathan that churns them out.
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Though, legislating against faith healing is wrong.
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Yep, exactly.
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Mandating medication/medical care and punishing those who don’t want to take part is absolutely WRONG. It’s just like the numerous attempts to punish those who dare to not vaccinate their kids – often briefly filling the news with factoids and emotional sop stories.
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Keep in mind they are not allowing children to go in with broken bones, they are allowing bones to heal out of place.
An extreme in either direction is problematic.
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I think the top comment in your linked article sums it up quite nicely:
“If faith healing worked then hospitals would be practising it” ~FattMatt
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You Stated — “I think the top comment in your linked article sums it up quite nicely:”
My Response — I disagree, for hospitals it would have to read more like this:
“If faith healing generated revenue then hospitals would be practicing it” ~ Evil Corp
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I honestly can’t begrudge those who’ve devoted thousands of dollars and hours of their time to learning medicine from seeking compensation for their efforts. And faith healers don’t exactly offer their services for free either.
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